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And then of course, when we get to politics, Israelis shrinking Palestinians, -Ron... African dictators shrinking rival ethnic groups. -Ron. Look, Ron. In any major transformation of society, are there serious growing pains? === In the 1950s, the institute identified over-population as mankind's single greatest long-term threat, the cause of all the catastrophes we are seeing today-- extreme climate and weather events, and the devastating impact on food and water security. === No offense, but um... do you think if you're that small you should still have all the same rights as the rest of us normal-sized people? I mean, like the right to vote? -Why wouldn't we? Oh, well, jeez, let's see, um... You don't buy as many products, you're not paying as much sales tax, and some of you aren't even paying any income tax. I mean, you're not really participating in our economy, are you?